Tiger Beat Vol. 17 No. 2, November 1980

Posted on 2nd March 2016 in "Times Square"

Tiger Beat Vol 17 No 2 Nov 1980 coverFull page "Times Square" ad from Tiger Beat Vol 17 No 2 Nov 1980 p 29

 

 

 

The November Tiger Beat also came out before Times Square’s October release, judging by the full-page teaser ad that ran on page 29.

 

"Times Square" soundtrack review from Tiger Beat Vol. 17 No. 2, Nov. 1980, p. 59. Text: Various Artists: “TIMES SQUARE” SOUNDTRACK. AFD’s new movie, “Times Square,” is perfect for a soundtrack, since it’s about three people trying to make it in show business! The music is New Wave and artists include Suzi Quatro, The Pretenders, Gary Numan, Joe Jackson, The Ramones, Desmond Child and Rouge, and many more. One single, “Rock Hard” by Suzi Quatro, has already come from this album, with “Help Me!” (from Marcy Levy and Robin Gibb) another one due out soon. There are too many good songs to name outstanding ones—hear them for yourself! (RSO)

 

In fact we can narrow down the date it came out to sometime between the releases of the first two singles from the soundtrack, as that’s stated explicitly in the scarily enthusiastic soundtrack review found on page 59, which was apparently written by someone with a third-hand synopsis of the movie that had come from someone who’d given the film’s publicity materials the most cursory of glances.
 
Previously.

 

 

Tiger Beat, Vol. 17 No. 2, November 1980, pp. 1, 29, 59 (detail) (work);
Tiger Beat Vol 17 No 2 Nov 1980 cover crop 1080.jpg, 1080 px (H) x 806 px (W), 96 dpi, 609 KB;
Tiger Beat Vol 17 No 2 Nov 1980 p 29 manual crop 1080.jpg, 1080 px (H) x 784 px (W), 96 dpi, 568 KB;
Tiger Beat Vol 17 No 2 Nov 1980 p 59 crop 1080.jpg, 1080 px (W) x 536 px (H), 96 dpi, 475 KB (images)

Tiger Beat ©1980 The Laufer Company

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

Canadian Movie Poster

Posted on 21st February 2016 in "Times Square"

The Canadian movie poster for "Times Square" is an American poster with white stickers over the American ratings. Text: In the heart of Times Square a poor girl becomes famous, a rich girl becomes courageous and both become friends. TIMES SQUARE ROBERT STIGWOOD Presents "TIMES SQUARE" Starring TIM CURRY ● TRINI ALVARADO And Introducing ROBIN JOHNSON Also Starring PETER COFFIELD ● HERBERT BERGHOF ● DAVID MARGULIES ● ANNA MARIA HORSFORD Executive Producers KEVIN McCORMICK ● JOHN NICOLELLA Directed by ALAN MOYLE Screenplay by JACOB BRACKMAN Story by ALAN MOYLE and LEANNE UNGER Produced by ROBERT STIGWOOD and JACOB BRACKMAN Associate Producer BILL OAKES An EMI Release Distributed in the U.S. and Canada By AFD (Associated Film Distribution) Soundtrack available on RSO Records and Tapes AFD RSO ADMITTANCE RESTRICTED TO PERSONS 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OVER 262 GAU GRAPHIC ARTS INTERNATIONAL UNION OFFICIAL UNION LABEL 796 PRINTED IN U.S.A. Property of National Screen Service Corporation. Licensed for use only in connection with the exhibition of this picture at the theatre licensing this material. Licensee agrees not to trade, sell or give it away, or permit others to use it, nor shall licensee be entitled to any credit upon return of this material. This material either must be returned or destroyed immediately after use. 800099

The movie poster for Times Square in Canada is almost identical to the U.S. poster. In fact, it is a U.S. poster, with two white stickers affixed to the bottom, one covering the American “R” rating barring under-17’s without a parent or guardian, and the other adding the Canadian “R” rating barring under-18’s entirely. Sorry, Canadian kids.

Part of the back of the Canadian "Times Square" movie poster.  Text:  [stamped]  PROPERTY OF CONSOLIDATED THEATRE SERVICES DON MILLS, ONTARIO  CALGARY, ALBERTA  80-99  [handwritten:]  Times Square

 

The back proudly bears stamps reading “PROPERTY OF CONSOLIDATED THEATRE SERVICES DON MILLS, ONTARIO | CALGARY, ALBERTA” and “80-99”. In the USA, 80-99-9 was the number assigned to Times Square by National Screen Service, and the poster itself has the number 800099 on the front. I believe the handwritten “Times Square” to have been added later, by a movie memorabilia dealer through whose hands the poster passed on its way to me.

 

 

“Times Square” Full Color One-Sheet Poster 800099, Canadian version, 1980;
color, 27 in (W) x 41 in (H) (work);
706 px (W) x 1080 px (H), 96 dpi, 432 kb (image)

inscription:
In the heart of Times Square
a poor girl becomes famous,
a rich girl becomes courageous
and both become friends.
TIMES SQUARE
ROBERT STIGWOOD Presents “TIMES SQUARE”
Starring TIM CURRY ● TRINI ALVARADO
And Introducing ROBIN JOHNSON
Also Starring PETER COFFIELD ● HERBERT BERGHOF ● DAVID MARGULIES ● ANNA MARIA HORSFORD
Executive Producers KEVIN McCORMICK ● JOHN NICOLELLA
Directed by ALAN MOYLE
Screenplay by JACOB BRACKMAN
Story by ALAN MOYLE and LEANNE UNGER
Produced by ROBERT STIGWOOD and JACOB BRACKMAN
Associate Producer BILL OAKES
An EMI Release Distributed in the U.S. and Canada
By AFD (Associated Film Distribution)
Soundtrack available on RSO Records and Tapes
AFD
RSO
ADMITTANCE
RESTRICTED
TO PERSONS
18 YEARS OF AGE OR OVER
262 GAU GRAPHIC ARTS INTERNATIONAL UNION OFFICIAL UNION LABEL 796
PRINTED IN U.S.A.
Property of National Screen Service Corporation. Licensed for use only in connection with the exhibition of this picture at the theatre licensing this material. Licensee agrees not to trade, sell or give it away, or permit others to use it, nor shall licensee be entitled to any credit upon return of this material. This material either must be returned or destroyed immediately after use.
800099
“Times Square” Full Color One-Sheet Poster 800099, Canadian version, reverse (detail), 1980 (work);
612 px (W) x 800 px (H), 96 dpi, 64.7 kb (image)

inscription:
IPROPERTY OF
CONSOLIDATED THEATRE SERVICES
DON MILLS, ONTARIO CALGARY, ALBERTA
80-99
Times Square

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

Soundtrack Promotional Poster OP-200

Posted on 8th September 2015 in "Times Square"

"Times Square" soundtrack promotional poster, 32" (H) x 48" (W), 1980 Text: The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack A Robert Stigwood Production TIMES SQUARE ™ A 2-RECORD SET Featuring Music Of: SUZI QUATRO, THE PRETENDERS ROXY MUSIC, GARY NUMAN TALKING HEADS, JOE JACKSON MARCY LEVY & ROBIN GIBB XTC, THE RAMONES GARLAND JEFFREYS, THE CURE LOU REED, DESMOND CHILD & ROUGE THE RUTS, D.L. BYRON ROBIN JOHNSON & TRINI ALVARADO PATTI SMITH GROUP, DAVID JOHANSEN RSO Records, Inc. ® © 1980 RSO Records, Inc. OP-200

 

“O” is for “oversized,” I assume. This image is the same size as the image of the last poster, but trust me, the actual poster is double the size — just as tall and twice as wide. At four feet wide, it may be the largest poster in my collection; the UK “Quad” movie poster may be larger… we’ll see when we get there.

You can see for yourself how the elements from the previous poster, themselves rearranged from the album cover (as seen on the promotional slick), have been rearranged here. The very background is still yellow, but it’s been overlaid with a blue rectangle. Nicky and Pammy have been moved into the upper right corner, and the RSO cow removed from Nicky’s Johnny LaGuardia button. The title has been enlarged and moved into the upper left. The bottom half is the pixellated photo of the final concert, just like in the last poster, but nearly all of it is visible here. The red paint streak here stretches all across the bottom, and serves as a background to highlight the artist names.

The biggest difference here, though… no mention of the movie’s opening date. This double-sized poster promotes the record and the record only.

I never saw this poster in its natural habitat (on the wall of a record store), but I find it more visually pleasing than most of the other posters, except for the poster-side of the 2-sided poster. I guess my eye just likes the red and the blue better than the yellow. I sincerely doubt I’ll ever live somewhere with enough wall space to hang it up, though.

 

 

“Times Square” Original Motion Picture Soundtrack promotional poster OP-200
poster, AAT ID: 300027221; color, 32 in (H) x 48 in (W) (work);
1080 px (H) x 715 px (W), 96 dpi, 622 kb (image)

1980
inscription:
The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
A Robert Stigwood Production
TIMES SQUARE ™
A 2-RECORD SET
Featuring Music Of:
SUZI QUATRO, THE PRETENDERS
ROXY MUSIC, GARY NUMAN
TALKING HEADS, JOE JACKSON
MARCY LEVY & ROBIN GIBB
XTC, THE RAMONES
GARLAND JEFFREYS, THE CURE
LOU REED, DESMOND CHILD & ROUGE
THE RUTS, D.L. BYRON
ROBIN JOHNSON & TRINI ALVARADO
PATTI SMITH GROUP, DAVID JOHANSEN
RSO Records, Inc. ®
© 1980 RSO Records, Inc.
OP-200

 

 

Soundtrack Promotional Poster P-201

Posted on 30th August 2015 in "Times Square"

Poster intended for record stores, promoting the soundtrack to and impending release of the movie "Times Square" (1980).  Text:  The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack A Robert Stigwood Production TIMES SQUARE Coming to a Theatre Near You Oct. 17th A 2-RECORD SET  Featuring Music Of: SUZI QUATRO, THE PRETENDERS, ROXY MUSIC, GARY NUMAN MARCY LEVY & ROBIN GIBB, TALKING HEADS, JOE JACKSON XTC, THE RAMONES, ROBIN JOHNSON & TRINI ALVARADO THE RUTS, D.L. BYRON, LOU REED, DESMOND CHILD & ROUGE GARLAND JEFFREYS, THE CURE, PATTI SMITH GROUP, DAVID JOHANSEN PRINTED IN USA P-201 © 1980 RSO Records Inc RSO Records, Inc.
 

The top of this poster uses the elements of the album cover art. The text strips have been moved, and the title has been enlarged, tilted to the right rather than the left, and has had most of its color removed, all to take advantage of the larger space and to be more legible from a distance. Pammy and Nicky have also been tilted sightly to the right. Where we expect to see Tim Curry’s face, we have the RSO cow on a yellow blob, itself atop a red circle. The bottom of the poster is the purple pixellated art from the inside of the album gatefold. The text strips listing the bands have been spaced out, and the punctuation at their ends removed.

This poster is promoting “A 2-Record Set.” Almost offhandedly it mentions that Times Square is “Coming to a Theatre Near You Oct. 17th.”

You know, I may have talked one of these off the wall of the upstairs record store at the Quakerbridge Mall, but I can’t remember for sure anymore.

 

 

“Times Square” Original Motion Picture Soundtrack promotional poster p-201
color, 36″ (H) x 24″ (W) (work); 1080 px (H) x 718 px (W), 96 dpi, 571 kb (image)

1980
inscription:
The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
A Robert Stigwood Production
TIMES SQUARE™
RSO® Records, Inc.
Coming to a Theatre Near You Oct. 17th
A 2-RECORD SET
Featuring Music Of:
SUZI QUATRO, THE PRETENDERS, ROXY MUSIC, GARY NUMAN
MARCY LEVY & ROBIN GIBB, TALKING HEADS, JOE JACKSON
XTC, THE RAMONES, ROBIN JOHNSON & TRINI ALVARADO
THE RUTS, D.L. BYRON, LOU REED, DESMOND CHILD & ROUGE
GARLAND JEFFREYS, THE CURE, PATTI SMITH GROUP, DAVID JOHANSEN
PRINTED IN USA P-201
RSO® Records, Inc.

 

 

Original Soundtrack Album Cover Promo Display

Posted on 21st August 2015 in "Times Square"

12" x 12" reproduction of the "Times Square" soundtrack album cover, used as promotional decoration in record stores. 1980. Text: The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack A Robert Stigwood Production TIMES SQUARE TM Featuring Music Of: SUZI QUATRO, THE PRETENDERS, ROXY MUSIC, GARY NUMAN, ,ARCY LEVY & ROBIN GIBB, TALKING HEADS, JOE JACKSON, XTC, THE RAMONES, ROBIN JOHNSON & TRINI ALVARADO, THE RUTS, D.L. BYRON, LOU REED, DESMOND CHILD & ROUGE, GARLAND JEFFREYS, THE CURE, PATTI SMITH GROUP, DAVID JOHANSEN.

 
 

This was the very first item of Times Square memorabilia I ever got (although, like the double-sided poster, not this specific copy of it). I saw the film twice at the Quakerbridge Mall, which had two record stores in it (later there were three, if you can imagine such a thing!). The one on the first floor had a more middle-of-the-road selection, as well as stereo equipment and a selection of cheap guitars in the back. The one upstairs was part head shop and had a dedicated punk/New Wave section. It was where I bought my first copy of the soundtrack to Times Square, and in late 1980 it had these copies of the album cover stapled to the walls all over.

Either after the second time I saw the film, or sometime shortly after that, when the film was gone but the soundtrack was still selling, I asked about these items, what would happen to them when they came down, when they were going to come down, how much would it cost to reserve one so I could buy it when it did come down, and made such a pest of myself that whoever I was bugging just took one down and gave it to me. (Of course, I was probably carrying an armful of records to buy, so it was more of a customer reward than a brush-off.)

It immediately went up on my bedroom wall and stayed there until we moved (more or less). It had staple holes on its corners which I probably made worse with push pins. I must still have it, but I don’t know offhand where it is.

Sometime in the last 15 years, much like happened with the double-sided posters, someone on eBay sold me a pile of these in uncirculated condition. The seller called them “slicks,” but they aren’t really — a slick is technically an album cover printed on thin paper to be pasted onto a cardboard album sleeve, and this is the front of the album cover printed on thin cardboard. I tend to refer to this thing as a slick, though, so if I ever mention a Times Square promo slick, this is what I’m talking about. (If I’m wrong and “slick” is the appropriate word for all promotional album cover art, let me know.)

RSO took the movie poster art design — the collage of the photos of Trini and Robin with Robin’s right shoulder erased — and made it a watercolor painting. The logo is aligned with itself, and the text is typewriter lettering against strips of black. If you’re familiar with the American edition of the soundtrack album, you may have noticed the one big difference here: no Tim Curry. The button with the image of Johnny — floating in space on the double-sided poster, affixed to Nicky’s lapel on the movie poster — is here nowhere to be seen.

The most significant change though, as far as I’m concerned: Robin’s eyes are now green, as they should be, and not blue. Trini’s are now brown.

 

 

Times Square Original Soundtrack Promotional “Slick”
color, 12″ x 12″ (work); 1080 px (W) x 1076 px (H), 96 dpi, 759 kb (image)

1980
inscription:
The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
A Robert Stigwood Production
TIMES SQUARE™
Featuring Music Of:
SUZI QUATRO, THE PRETENDERS, ROXY MUSIC,
GARY NUMAN, MARCY LEVY & ROBIN GIBB, TALKING HEADS, JOE JACKSON,
XTC, THE RAMONES, ROBIN JOHNSON & TRINI ALVARADO,
THE RUTS, D.L. BYRON, LOU REED, DESMOND CHILD & ROUGE,
GARLAND JEFFREYS, THE CURE, PATTI SMITH GROUP, DAVID JOHANSEN.

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

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AFD Campaign Pressbook (pages 7-20)

Posted on 12th August 2015 in "Times Square"

The remaining 14 pages of the AFD Campaign Pressbook consist of the poster reconfigured to fit every imaginable size of newspaper movie advertisement. I’m not posting all of them (because webspace is neither infinite nor free), just enough to give you an idea.

The back cover gives a contact at AFD where you can get additional promotional tools: the movie poster and insert card, the press kit and photographs, and television commercials and the theatrical trailer. I don’t remember anyTV advertising for Times Square (which doesn’t mean it didn’t happen). The trailer, though… I never saw it in a theater, but HBO ran it in 1981 to promote their broadcast of the film. I know because I remember vividly the “lost” shot of Pammy and Nicky splashing in the Hudson, and closely scrutinizing the film trying to catch that scene, long before it became common knowledge what had happened in the editing room.

Why Anchor Bay put a different version of the trailer on the 2000 DVD is still a mystery. But I’m getting ahead of myself.

 

 

AFD. “Times Square” Campaign Pressbook. Los Angeles: Associated Film Distribution, 1980, pp. 7, 9, 13, 14, 17-20;
black and white, 14.75 in (H) x 10.5 in (W), 20 pp (work);


 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

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U.S. Insert Card Poster

Posted on 16th July 2015 in "Times Square"

Insert card poster for "Times Square" (1980).  Text:  In the heart of Times Square a poor girl becomes famous, a rich girl becomes courageous and both become friends. TIMES SQUARE ROBERT STIGWOOD Presents "TIMES SQUARE" Starring TIM CURRY ● TRINI ALVARADO And Introducing ROBIN JOHNSON Also Starring PETER COFFIELD ● HERBERT BERGHOF DAVID MARGULIES ● ANNA MARIA HORSFORD Executive Producers KEVIN McCORMICK ● JOHN NICOLELLA Produced by ROBERT STIGWOOD and JACOB BRACKMAN Directed by ALAN MOYLE Associate Producer BILL OAKES  Screenplay by JACOB BRACKMAN Story by ALLAN MOYLE and LEANNE UNGER    An EMI Release Distributed in the U.S. and Canada  By AFD (Associated Film Distribution) Soundtrack available on RSO Records and Tapes R RESTRICTED UNDER 17 REQUIRES ACCOMPANYING PARENT OR ADULT GUARDIAN DOLBY STEREO T.M. IN SELECTED THEATRES AFD T.M. ©1980 Associated Film Distribution RSO TM Records, Inc. 262 GAU GRAPHIC ARTS INTERNATIONAL UNION OFFICIAL UNION LABEL 796 PRINTED IN U.S.A. Property of National Screen Service Corporation. Licensed for use only in connection with the exhibition of this picture at the theatre licensing this material. Licensee agrees not to trade, sell or give it away, or permit others to use it, nor shall licensee be entitled to any credit upon return of this material. This material either must be returned or destroyed immediately after use. 800099
 
Insert cards aren’t made anymore, but they were my favorite form of movie poster, because the three windows in my bedroom way back when were spaced perfectly to fit two insert cards between. Also, the heavier card stock made them more durable when taking them down and putting them up.

As I recall, these were generally displayed in a theater’s lobby in a window labelled “Coming Soon.” The Times Square insert card is the same basic design as the full poster, with the elements rearranged slightly to fit the narrower format. The blotch of red paint in the background is larger, and Robin has been rotated to the left, although Trini and Tim maintain their orientation. The button with Tim on it has moved off Robin’s lapel up to her neckline, to keep it on the poster. The right point of Robin’s jacket’s collar has been redrawn now that it no longer would cover Trini’s face. The seam along its bottom edge disappears at the point where it was cut off for the one-sheet poster art, and the seam along the top (which was painted out on the one-sheet) isn’t there at all. The collar may even be a little longer and pointier than it was originally.

The credits are the same, except for the addition of a “Dolby Stereo in Selected Theatres,” and Allan Moyle’s name spelled correctly with two L’s in his story credit. His director’s credit maintains the “Alan” spelling. Why his name is spelled two different ways on this poster is as much a mystery to me as why it’s misspelled “Alan” on everything else connected with Times Square, including the film itself.

 

 

Times Square Full Color Insert Card 800099
color, 14 in (W) x 36 in (H) (work);
446 px (W) x 1080 px (H), 96 dpi, 384 kb (image)

1980
inscription:
In the heart of Times Square
a poor girl becomes famous,
a rich girl becomes courageous
and both become friends.
TIMES SQUARE
ROBERT STIGWOOD Presents “TIMES SQUARE”
Starring TIM CURRY ● TRINI ALVARADO
And Introducing ROBIN JOHNSON
Also Starring PETER COFFIELD ● HERBERT BERGHOF
DAVID MARGULIES ● ANNA MARIA HORSFORD
Executive Producers KEVIN McCORMICK ● JOHN NICOLELLA
Produced by ROBERT STIGWOOD and JACOB BRACKMAN
Directed by ALAN MOYLE
Associate Producer BILL OAKES
Screenplay by JACOB BRACKMAN
Story by ALLAN MOYLE and LEANNE UNGER
An EMI Release Distributed in the U.S. and Canada
By AFD (Associated Film Distribution)
Soundtrack available on RSO Records and Tapes
R RESTRICTED
UNDER 17 REQUIRES ACCOMPANYING PARENT OR ADULT GUARDIAN
DOLBY STEREO ™
IN SELECTED THEATRES
AFD ™
© 1980 Associated Film Distribution
RSO ™ Records, Inc.
262 GAU GRAPHIC ARTS INTERNATIONAL UNION OFFICIAL UNION LABEL 796
PRINTED IN U.S.A.
Property of National Screen Service Corporation. Licensed for use only in connection with the exhibition of this picture at the theatre licensing this material. Licensee agrees not to trade, sell or give it away, or permit others to use it, nor shall licensee be entitled to any credit upon return of this material. This material either must be returned or destroyed immediately after use.
800099

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

The U.S. Movie Poster

Posted on 7th July 2015 in "Times Square"

The "Times Square" US movie poster.  Text:  In the heart of Times Square a poor girl becomes famous, a rich girl becomes courageous and both become friends. TIMES SQUARE ROBERT STIGWOOD Presents "TIMES SQUARE" Starring TIM CURRY ● TRINI ALVARADO  And Introducing ROBIN JOHNSON Also Starring PETER COFFIELD ● HERBERT BERGHOF ● DAVID MARGULIES ● ANNA MARIA  HORSFORD Executive Producers KEVIN McCORMICK ● JOHN NICOLELLA Directed by ALAN MOYLE Screenplay by JACOB BRACKMAN Story by ALAN MOYLE and LEANNE UNGER Produced by ROBERT STIGWOOD and JACOB BRACKMAN Associate Producer BILL OAKES An EMI Release Distributed in the U.S. and Canada By AFD (Associated Film Distribution) R RESTRICTED UNDER 17 REQUIRES ACCOMPANYING PARENT OR ADULT GUARDIAN Soundtrack available on RSO Records and Tapes AFD T.M.   ©1980 Associated Film Distribution RSO TM Records, Inc. 262 GAU GRAPHIC ARTS INTERNATIONAL UNION OFFICIAL UNION LABEL 796 PRINTED IN U.S.A. Property of National Screen Service Corporation. Licensed for use only in connection  with the exhibition of this picture at the theatre licensing this material. Licensee  agrees not to trade, sell or give it away, or permit others to use it, nor shall  licensee be entitled to any credit upon return of this material. This material  either must be returned or destroyed immediately after use. 800099
The final design for the movie poster retains the two overlapping askew rectangles from the poster side of the double-sided poster. That poster had a black rectangle over a purple rectangle over a red background; here it’s changed to yellow over blue over white. The colorized collage of Nicky and Pammy remains, but Pammy’s head has been lowered in relation to Nicky’s, and Nicky’s right shoulder and arm have been removed, and her collar shortened, to make room. The button with Johnny’s face has been placed on Nicky’s left lapel. It’s the same colorization job, with Nicky’s blue eyes and a ton of eye shadow, although there’s less contrast and there isn’t as much detail in the hair.

The round splotch of vivid fuschia with its outer drops turning to musical notes (which started as a cloud of red-orange smoke with its outer edges turning to notes) is now a streak of red paint whose splatters are just splatters.

The logo is exactly the same, just a little faded-looking in comparison because of the lowered contrast.

The tagline, “In the heart of Times Square a poor girl becomes famous, a rich girl becomes courageous and both become friends,” … well, they had to say something. It seems momentous until you start to think about what it actually says. It is literally what happens, but it’s not exactly what the movie is about.

Finally, the fantastic strips of DYMO label tape from the double-sided poster have become a clear italic sans-serif font on strips of fuschia (gotta have that fuschia somewhere). It looks great if you don’t have the original idea to compare it with. They sacrificed the design for the sake of clarity (it is easier to read), which is always the way, and is usually the right decision. Although… it is a watering down of the marketing towards a New Wave audience, to market the film more to a mass audience, and in hindsight we all know how well that worked.

 

 

“Times Square” Full Color One-Sheet Poster 800099
color, 27 in (W) x 41 in (H) (work);
706 px (W) x 1080 px (H), 96 dpi, 432 kb (image)

1980
inscription:
In the heart of Times Square
a poor girl becomes famous,
a rich girl becomes courageous
and both become friends.
TIMES SQUARE
ROBERT STIGWOOD Presents “TIMES SQUARE”
Starring TIM CURRY ● TRINI ALVARADO
And Introducing ROBIN JOHNSON
Also Starring PETER COFFIELD ● HERBERT BERGHOF ● DAVID MARGULIES ● ANNA MARIA HORSFORD
Executive Producers KEVIN McCORMICK ● JOHN NICOLELLA
Directed by ALAN MOYLE
Screenplay by JACOB BRACKMAN
Story by ALAN MOYLE and LEANNE UNGER
Produced by ROBERT STIGWOOD and JACOB BRACKMAN
Associate Producer BILL OAKES
An EMI Release Distributed in the U.S. and Canada
By AFD (Associated Film Distribution)
R RESTRICTED
UNDER 17 REQUIRES ACCOMPANYING PARENT OR ADULT GUARDIAN
Soundtrack available on RSO Records and Tapes
AFD T.M.
©1980 Associated Film Distribution
RSO TM Records, Inc.
262 GAU GRAPHIC ARTS INTERNATIONAL UNION OFFICIAL UNION LABEL 796
PRINTED IN U.S.A.
Property of National Screen Service Corporation. Licensed for use only in connection
with the exhibition of this picture at the theatre licensing this material. Licensee
agrees not to trade, sell or give it away, or permit others to use it, nor shall
licensee be entitled to any credit upon return of this material. This material
either must be returned or destroyed immediately after use.
800099

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

The Mystery of the Double-Sided Poster, Side Two

Posted on 28th June 2015 in "Times Square"

Designed to be opened one fold at a time, the blue side is a promotional presentation for "Times Square" and its soundtrack, and the red side is a full poster. This is the red side.  Text:  TIMES SQUARE Can you feel my fever? Can you hear me howl? I'm just a Damn Dog. Tune into me because I am tuned into you. STICK IT IN YOUR EAR. NO SENSE MAKES SENSE They tell me I'm crazy. But the truth is I just know bullshit when I see it.Fully opening the two-sided poster reveals my favorite version of the image most associated with Times Square.

As I mentioned last time, I find the red background more visually pleasing than the yellow used on the movie poster and soundtrack album cover. There are several other differences in this version, as well. The Seiniger designers have collaged the black and white photos of Robin and Trini, but here they’re of equal height; the future versions will make Trini seem significantly shorter than Robin. Also, this is the only time we get to see Robin’s right shoulder; the movie poster and album cover cut her out at the lapel.

This side doesn’t use the DYMO label-style typeface, but it does use Nicky’s pins as a design element, floating quotes from the film and Tim Curry’s image in badges. The Tim Curry button will later find its way to Nicky’s left lapel, which for now plays host to a button with the RSO cow. The buttons-scattered-across-the-poster idea will later be used by the Japanese promotion artists, although their choices of what constitute statements of rebellion will face a bit of a language barrier.

The artists do a masterful job of colorizing the black and white photographs, but either they had no color reference photos or they made an artistic decision for reasons of their own, because they made Robin’s eyes blue. Robin’s eyes are green with a trace of brown. Trini’s eyes here are pretty much the color of Robin’s eyes in real life. I don’t know what color Trini’s eyes really are.

There are color photos that were taken at the same time as the black and white shot of Nicky so I also don’t know why they felt the need to slather eye shadow on Nicky that she certainly wasn’t wearing. I’ve never once had the feeling that Nicky was an eye shadow kind of girl. The closest thing we ever see to her applying make-up is to paint a mask across the entire top half of her face. Even though the poster designers had finally gotten a very good handle on what the film was trying to get across, they didn’t quite understand the character of Nicky. It’s another attempt to make her just a little more girly, like the Press Folder’s misspelling her name as “Nikki.”

 

 

[“Times Square” double-sided promotional poster, inside]
color, 39 in (H) x 25.75 in (W) (work);
712 px (W) x 1080 px (H), 510 kb (image)
1980, Seiniger & Associates

inscription:
TIMES SQUARE
Can you feel my fever? Can you hear me howl? I’m just a Damn Dog.
Tune into me because I am tuned into you.
STICK IT IN YOUR EAR.
NO SENSE MAKES SENSE
They tell me I’m crazy. But the truth is I just know bullshit when I see it.

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

The Mystery of the Double-Sided Poster, Side One

Posted on 19th June 2015 in "Times Square"

I think this was the first promotional piece I found after Times Square had come, been, and gone. (Not this copy, but I’ll get to that.) I don’t recall exactly where it came from… it was a tiny store dealing in rock memorabilia in Manhattan somewhere, probably between 34th and 4th Streets, west of Broadway… The full opened outside of the 2-sided promotional poster.  As this was designed to be looked at while being opened and then turned to the other side, the sections comprising the folded outside are upside down.  Text:  THERE'S NOTHING TO DO BUT PLAY MUSIC AND SCREAM YOUR LUNGS OUT.  TIMES SQUARE ROBERT STIGWOOD PRESENTS  TIMES SQUARE  STARRING TIM CURRY  TRINI ALVARADO ROBIN JOHNSON PETER COFFIELD HERBERT BERGHOF  SCREENPLAY BY JACOB BRACKMAN STORY BY ALAN MOYLE AND LEANNE UNGER  DIRECTED BY ALAN MOYLE PRODUCED BY ROBERT STIGWOOD  AND JACOB BRACKMAN EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS KEVIN McCORMICK AND JOHN NICOLELLA  ASSOCIATE PRODUCER BILL OAKES  R RESTRICTED UNDER 17 REQUIRES ACCOMPANYING PARENT OR ADULT GUARDIAN SOUNDTRACK AVAILABLE ON RSO RECORDS AND TAPES AN EMI RELEASE DISTRIBUTED BY AFD  EMI RSO® Records Inc. AFD  ©1980 Associated Film Distribution DESIGN: SEINIGER & ASSOCIATES  PRINTED IN U.S.A.  THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY AND THAT'S RUNNING AWAY AND HANGING OUT AND SETTING YOURSELF FREE.  TIMES SQUARE THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK FROM THE MOTION PICTURE 2 RECORD SET   FEATURING MUSIC BY "ROCK HARD" - SUZI QUATRO "TALK OF THE TOWN" - THE PRETENDERS "SAME OLD SCENE" - ROXY MUSIC "DOWN IN THE PARK" - GARY NUMAN "HELP ME!" - MARCY LEVY & ROBIN GIBB "LIFE DURING WARTIME" - TALKING HEADS "PRETTY BOYS" - JOE JACKSON "TAKE THIS TOWN" - XTC "I WANNA BE SEDATED" - THE RAMONES "DAMN DOG" - ROBIN JOHNSON  "YOUR DAUGHTER IS ONE" - ROBIN JOHNSON & TRINI ALVARADO "BABYLON'S BURNING" - THE RUTS "YOU CAN'T HURRY LOVE" - D.L. BYRON "WALK ON THE WILD SIDE" - LOU REED "THE NIGHT WAS NOT" - DESMOND CHILD & ROUGE "INNOCENT, NOT GUILTY" - GARLAND JEFFREYS "GRINDING HALT" - THE CURE "PISSING IN THE RIVER" - PATTI SMITH GROUP "FLOWERS IN THE CITY" - DAVID JOHANSEN & ROBIN JOHNSON The poster wasn’t in great shape, but it had a bunch of pictures I’d never seen, so I immediately bought it and took it home and encountered the dilemma of which side to display. I filled the corners with pinholes and “Fun-Tak” stains as I flipped it over every month or so, but eventually settled on the red side (next post, hee hee) because I found it more aesthetically pleasing, in no small part because no matter how I hung this side, part of it was always upside down. Eventually, we moved, and I took it down, rolled it up, and put it away.

Years later, God invented the Internet, and I stumbled across someone selling this same item, in unused mint condition. I purchased it immediately of course, and during the transaction he mentioned he had more of them, and since at the time I could afford to do such silly things, I bought them all. They arrived in a single heavy envelope that remained unopened until a few weeks ago when I decided I needed good scans of all my Times Square posters.

I opened the envelope for the first time, and discovered an extremely nice letter from the seller that I’m sorry I hadn’t seen before. I slid out a few copies of the poster, checked to find one with the least damage from the machine that had folded them, and gingerly started to unfold it to see how to do it without accidentally tearing something, and that’s when I noticed…

(If it’s obvious to you, congratulations, you’re more observant than I. I’d never even suspected there was anything to notice.)

I guess it was because the copy I had back in the day had never been folded in its natural state, or if it had I was too eager to get it open, and when I stored it I rolled it up like you’re supposed to do with posters, but… as I was wondering how best to approach scanning such a huge item (in pieces stitched together with Microsoft Image Composite Editor, If you’re wondering), I noticed that the front and back of the folded item were complete images by themselves. And opening it, there was another complete image. And opening it once more, another one. And the next unfold revealed the other side.

It wasn’t a 2-sided poster, it was a 5-sided poster. This thing is an interactive promotional presentation for Times Square, the movie and the soundtrack. It’s a little movie trailer on paper. That explained something I’d always wondered about: what exactly was this thing for? Evidently it was distributed to theater owners, and maybe record stores, to drum up interest in booking the film and pre-ordering the record, with the red side an option to hang as a teaser poster.

The reason part of it was always upside down was, the blue side was never intended to be seen all at once. Only the other side was a poster. The blue side is supposed to be looked at as it unfolds, as I’m going to try to show below. In real life, each unfolding results in doubling the size of the image, but these images are all going to be about the same size, because it’s the Internet. If you pay me enough I’ll try to do more to replicate the experience of unfolding a big piece of paper.

The “front cover” shows the final promotional logo for the movie. (The logo as used on and in the US Press Materials folder became the logo for the soundtrack.) The back has the movie credits.

The double-sided poster, designed by Seiniger & Associates, is the pinnacle of the artistic design for the film’s promotional materials. This is the only time that the text appears as strips of DYMO hand-embossed labels, a brilliant move to signify that you’re looking at something made cheaply by hand. (I was surprised and gratified to find they’re still being made; they were the height of label-making technology in the 1970s.) In all future posters, the text would be distressed typewriter-style lettering on uneven black stripes, and sometimes just white lettering on black stripes. Strangely, I didn’t realize that until this project: I always pictured all of the posters’ text appearing as it does here, evoking a punk DIY aesthetic echoing yet totally different from the cut-out ransom-note letters in Jamie Reid’s designs for the Sex Pistols."Times Square" Screenplay by Jacob Brackman, 1979,  page 127 of 129  Text:  127 CONTINUED NICKY All right!  Nothin' to do but SCREAM YER LUNGS OUT! and PLAY MUSIC! The kids love this rhetoric.  They call to her. KIDS Tell it Nicky!  We love you! NICKY There's only one way and that's RUNNING AWAY and HANGING OUT and SETTING YOURSELF FREE! The crowd roars its approval. NICKY starts a chant and the kids take it up, faster and faster. NICKY Got to.  Got to.  Got to.  Got to. Got to.  Got to.  Got to.  Got to. I'm gonna stay up here till they blow me away. BUT THEY CAN'T BLOW ALL OF US AWAY, CAN THEY? Her fans scream with pleasure,  NICKY is completely caught up in her own theatricality.  She strikes another giant chord. NICKY They're gonna kill me, but when I'm dead I won't give a shit . . . cause I'm a DAMN DOG! THE BLONDELLS launch powerfully into the song. The rehearsals have paid off.  Within moments, everyone knows NICKY is a success as a singer. NICKY realizes it too.  She has moves.  She begins to laugh as she sings. Five policemen burst onto the roof. CONTINUED

The line using the DYMO typeface shown in the first unfolding (“There’s only one way and that’s running away and hanging out and setting yourself free”) does not appear in the film. It is, however, on page 127 of the May 1979 draft of the screenplay. The dialogue in the scene as shot is far better than what appears on the page, so it would appear that this was heavily rewritten and the poster designers were working from photos and an outdated screenplay. Although the soundtrack was locked (as is seen on the next unfold), no one had yet seen the movie, which was probably still being edited and re-edited. I don’t think any of the photos on this page appear anywhere else. I would love a full print of Nicky and Pammy in front of the adult book store.

The next unfolding reveals an ad for the soundtrack. The line here (“There’s nothing to do but play music and scream your lungs out”) is misquoted from the film, and oddly the screenplay has the line correctly. Either someone at Seiniger made an editorial decision, or the draft they were working from was an intermediate one in which Jacob Brackman had changed the line to this, and then changed it back before shooting. The photos again are immediately recognizable, but aren’t the shots from the film, and as of this writing I don’t think they appear anywhere else. The shot of Nicky and Pammy at the microphone is from before they blacked out the word “Rickenbacker” from the guitar’s headstock.

The image is split through the middle with a bit of the red poster showing through. Getting the poster’s edges to meet perfectly would have been extremely difficult, plus it was a good idea to make it obvious that there’s more unfolding to do. This is what really proved to me what this item was: I’d been looking at this for years without realizing that the top and bottom of the unfolded blue side were really the middle strip of a single image when it was folded this way. And a circular splatter of day-glo color, whose edges become musical notes… where have we seen something like that before? Oh yeah, here, where it’s a cloud of smoke. That’s another thing that makes me think that rejected poster is real: this design element that survives in a vastly improved form on the first official poster.

Coming up next: the full poster side.

 

 

[“Times Square” double-sided promotional poster, outside]
color, 39 in (H) x 25.75 in (W) (work);
715 px (W) x 1080 px (H), 518 kb (image)

1980
inscription:
THERE’S NOTHING TO DO BUT PLAY MUSIC AND SCREAM YOUR LUNGS OUT.
TIMES SQUARE
ROBERT STIGWOOD PRESENTS
TIMES SQUARE
STARRING TIM CURRY
TRINI ALVARADO ROBIN JOHNSON PETER COFFIELD HERBERT BERGHOF
SCREENPLAY BY JACOB BRACKMAN STORY BY ALAN MOYLE AND LEANNE UNGER
DIRECTED BY ALAN MOYLE PRODUCED BY ROBERT STIGWOOD
AND JACOB BRACKMAN
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS KEVIN McCORMICK AND JOHN NICOLELLA
ASSOCIATE PRODUCER BILL OAKES
R RESTRICTED
UNDER 17 REQUIRES ACCOMPANYING PARENT OR ADULT GUARDIAN
SOUNDTRACK AVAILABLE ON RSO RECORDS AND TAPES
AN EMI RELEASE DISTRIBUTED BY AFD
EMI RSO® Records Inc. AFD ©1980 Associated Film Distribution
DESIGN: SEINIGER & ASSOCIATES
PRINTED IN U.S.A.
THERE’S ONLY ONE WAY AND THAT’S RUNNING AWAY AND HANGING OUT AND SETTING YOURSELF FREE.
TIMES SQUARE
THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK FROM THE MOTION PICTURE
2 RECORD SET
FEATURING MUSIC BY
“ROCK HARD” – SUZI QUATRO
“TALK OF THE TOWN” – THE PRETENDERS
“SAME OLD SCENE” – ROXY MUSIC
“DOWN IN THE PARK” – GARY NUMAN
“HELP ME!” – MARCY LEVY & ROBIN GIBB
“LIFE DURING WARTIME” – TALKING HEADS
“PRETTY BOYS” – JOE JACKSON
“TAKE THIS TOWN” – XTC
“I WANNA BE SEDATED” – THE RAMONES
“DAMN DOG” – ROBIN JOHNSON
“YOUR DAUGHTER IS ONE” – ROBIN JOHNSON & TRINI ALVARADO
“BABYLON’S BURNING” – THE RUTS
“YOU CAN’T HURRY LOVE” – D.L. BYRON
“WALK ON THE WILD SIDE” – LOU REED
“THE NIGHT WAS NOT” – DESMOND CHILD & ROUGE
“INNOCENT, NOT GUILTY” – GARLAND JEFFREYS
“GRINDING HALT” – THE CURE
“PISSING IN THE RIVER” – PATTI SMITH GROUP
“FLOWERS IN THE CITY” – DAVID JOHANSEN & ROBIN JOHNSON

 

Details from [“Times Square” double-sided promotional poster, outside]:
TIMES SQUARE double-sided promotional poster package, folded front
800 px (W) x 609 px (H), 96dpi, 220kb (image)
 
TIMES SQUARE double-sided promotional poster package, folded back
800 px (W) x 611 px (H), 96dpi, 278kb (image)
 
TIMES SQUARE double-sided promotional poster package, unfolded once
1080 px (W) x 408 px (H), 96dpi, 236kb (image)
 
TIMES SQUARE double-sided promotional poster package, unfolded twice
1080 px (H) x 1426 px (W), 96dpi, 733kb (image)

 

TIMES SQUARE, p. 127
Screenplay by Jacob Brackman
1979

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

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