Guerreras de Nueva York (Times Square movie poster, Mexico, 1981)

Posted on 5th August 2018 in "Times Square"
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1981 Mexican movie poster for TIMES SQUARE (1980)  Text:  NO SOMOS CRIMINALES... Y SI NOS TRATAN COMO TAL USAREMOS ANTIFAZ  NO NECESITAMOS ANTIDEPRESIVOS QUEREMOS AMOR  NO SOMOS INOCENTES... NO SOMOS CULPABLES... SOMOS JOVENES  NO SOMOS GOLFAS... AYUDENOS A VIVIR  ORGANIZACION APOLO, S.A. Presenta a ROBIN JOHNSON • TRINI ALVARADO • TIM CURRY en Guerreras de Nueva York Director ALAN MOYLE  Un Film de Robert Stigwood   [WE ARE NOT CRIMINALS ... AND IF WE'RE TREATED THAT WAY WE'LL WEAR MASKS  WE DO NOT NEED ANTIDEPRESSANTS WE WANT LOVE  WE ARE NOT INNOCENT ... WE ARE NOT GUILTY ... WE ARE YOUNG  WE ARE NOT WHORES ... HELP US TO LIVE  APOLO ORGANIZATION, S.A. Presents ROBIN JOHNSON • TRINI ALVARADO • TIM CURRY in Warriors of New York Director ALAN MOYLE  A Film by Robert Stigwood]

Warriors of New York came out in Mexico in 1981, and its poster was a collage of publicity stills and the European poster painting. To my mind, though, the most interesting thing about it, even more than the new title, is that Robin Johnson has top billing, and Tim Curry is reduced to third. I can only assume that, even more than in the rest of the world, she was the film’s major selling point in Mexico.

Clockwise from top left: an edit of the photo that ran in Film Review Vol 31 No 1, on an Italian lobby poster, and on the back of the Japanese promo flyer and in the Japanese souvenir program book (in the movie, Nicky holds the microphone in her other hand); a shot of the final concert that I think is making its first appearance here; a larger crop of a shot that appeared in the Japanese program book, and which appeared in an even larger crop on a lobby card whose provenance I’m unsure of (part of the collection of Karen Dean (DefeatedandGifted); I’ve assumed they’re Australian, but I don’t know — they use the American logo but identify the distributor as EMI, not AFD); a shot whose last appearance was in the Japanese program book, and you know what, you can find its previous appearances listed in that post; the painting by Cummins that first appeared on the UK movie poster and on most of the European posters after; and a shot that previously appeared in the “Press Folder,” as a UK lobby card, and in Joepie No. 365.

Here’s the text, along with my feeble attempt at a translation. As always, I welcome any corrections.

NO SOMOS CRIMINALES… Y SI NOS TRATAN COMO TAL USAREMOS ANTIFAZ

NO NECESITAMOS ANTIDEPRESIVOS
QUEREMOS AMOR

NO SOMOS INOCENTES… NO SOMOS CULPABLES… SOMOS JOVENES

NO SOMOS GOLFAS… AYUDENOS A VIVIR

ORGANIZACION APOLO, S.A. Presenta a
ROBIN JOHNSON • TRINI ALVARADO • TIM CURRY en
Guerreras de Nueva York
Director ALAN MOYLE

Un Film de
Robert Stigwood

WE ARE NOT CRIMINALS … AND IF WE’RE TREATED THAT WAY WE’LL WEAR MASKS

WE DO NOT NEED ANTIDEPRESSANTS
WE WANT LOVE

WE ARE NOT INNOCENT … WE ARE NOT GUILTY … WE ARE YOUNG

WE ARE NOT WHORES … HELP US TO LIVE

APOLO ORGANIZATION, S.A. Presents
ROBIN JOHNSON • TRINI ALVARADO • TIM CURRY in
Warriors of New York
Director ALAN MOYLE

A Film by
Robert Stigwood

Further reading:

Film Review Vol 31 No 1
Italian lobby poster 2 of 2
Japanese promo flyer
Japanese souvenir program book, pp. 1-7
Japanese souvenir program book, pp. 12-13
Japanese souvenir program book, pp. 20-24
Movie poster, UK
Movie poster, Belgium
Movie poster, Italy
Movie poster, Spain
Movie poster, Yugoslavia

 

 

Guerreras de Nueva York
Mexico : poster : AAT ID: 300027221 : 42.2 x 55.9 cm : 1981 (work);
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829 x 1080 px, 96 dpi, 553 kb (image)

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

SONIDO – la revista musical, No. 56, June 1981

Posted on 12th July 2018 in "Times Square"
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Mexican pop music magazine featuring article on TIMES SQUARE.  Text:  NUMERO 56  $30 00  SONIDO 'a musical  ROD STEWART THREE SOULS BEATLES DANGEROUS RHYTHM  ¡¡¡LA NUEVA EXPLOSION DEL ROCK PESADO¡¡¡

 

 

 

 

The June 1981 issue of the Mexican pop music magazine Sonido contained on pages 38 and 39 an article credited to “Vicco,” but which seems to be exactly the same kind of AFD/RSO-written publicity published in English in similar magazines a year before.

The article calls the film Times Square. It wasn’t released under that title in Mexico, though, as we shall see.

The accompanying photos are the ubiquitous TS-72-8A/14, TS-66-28/9, and TS-82-30[/4], all three of which were part of the US Press Material pack.

POR: vicco

TIMES SQUARE es un drama contemporáneo,con música estelarizada por los talentos de Tim Curry, cantante y actor británico que se dio a conocer con El show de terror de Rocky; Trini Alvarado, quien tuvo un importante papel en la película de Robert Altman Rich kids, y Robin Johnson, una actriz proveniente de Brooklin, muy dinámica y que canta también en su debut cinematográfico.

La película fue filmada en diversas locaciones de Nueva York, incluyendo el infame Deuce y es resaltada por veinte canciones originales ejemplificando algo de lo mejor del rock contemporáneo interpretadas por los más importantes artistas del momento, así como por las dos estrellas de la cinta, Robin Johnson y Trini Alvarado.

Times square retrata las desventuras de dos chiquillas rebeldonas, una proveniente de un ambiente sofisticado y, la otra, producto de las calles. Juntas desde el cuarto de un hospital neurológico comienzan una serie de bizarras escapadas y su comportamiento es reportado por un disc-jockey que trabaja toda la noche en una estación de radio y que las anima a seguir con sus trucos y logra convertirlas en celebridades menores de los medios. Ellas pasan sobre todas las autoridades llegando al climax en una escena sobre la marquesina del teatro Times Square con cientos de seguidores rindiendo su tributo.

Dicha cinta es una presentación de Robert Stigwood y fue producida por Stigwood y Jacob Brackman, dirigida por Alan Moyle, basada en una historia de Moyle y Leanne Unger. Kevin McCormick y John Nicollela son los productores ejecutivos y Bill Oakes es productor asociado.

LA MUSICA
En un momento en que la música de películas se encuentra entre los discos más populares y cuando ha sido entendida como un vehículo muy importante para la aceptación de una cinta, aparece un nuevo álbum doble en discos RSO con la música de la película Times square, uno de los más excitantes que han sido lanzados, pues no sólo captura el espíritu de la película, sino que es además una antología única de canciones interpretadas por los mejores artistas de rock del momento, tanto de Inglaterra como de Estados Unidos, incluyendo a Suzi Qautro, The Pretenders, Roxy Music, Gary Numan, The Talking Heads, Joe Jackson, The Patti Smith Group, XTC, The Cure, Lou Reed,The Ramones, The Ruts, David Johansen y muchos otros. ¡Es un álbum espectacular!

v

BY: vicco

TIMES SQUARE is a contemporary drama, with music, starring the talents of Tim Curry, singer and British actor who became known in The Rocky Horror Picture Show; Trini Alvarado, who had an important role in Robert Altman’s movie Rich Kids, and Robin Johnson, an actress from Brooklyn, very dynamic and who also sings in her film début.

The movie was filmed in diverse locations of New York, including the infamous Deuce, and it is highlighted by twenty original songs exemplifying some of the best contemporary rock performed by today’s most important artists, as well as by both stars of the film, Robin Johnson and Trini Alvarado.

Times Square portrays the misfortunes of two little girl rebels, one from a sophisticated environment and, the other one, a product of the streets. Together from the room of a neurological hospital they begin a series of bizarre escapades and their behavior is reported by a disc-jockey who works the overnight on a radio station and who encourages them to continue with their tricks and manages to turn them into minor media celebrities. They get past all the authorities, arriving at the climax in a scene on the marquee of the Times Square theatre with hundreds of followers paying tribute.

This film is a Robert Stigwood presentation and it was produced by Stigwood and Jacob Brackman, directed by Alan Moyle, based on a story by Moyle and Leanne Unger. Kevin McCormick and John Nicollela are the executive producers and Bill Oakes is the associate producer.

THE MUSIC

At a time when movie soundtracks are among the most popular records and when they have been understood as a very important vehicle for the acceptance of a film, a new double album appears on RSO Records with the music of the movie Times Square, one of the most exciting to be released, since it not only captures the spirit of the movie, but it is also a unique collection of songs performed by today’s greatest rock artists, from both England and the United States, including Suzi Qautro, The Pretenders, Roxy Music, Gary Numan, The Talking Heads, Joe Jackson, The Patti Smith Group, XTC, The Cure, Lou Reed, The Ramones, The Ruts, David Johansen and many others. It is a spectacular album!

v

 

 

vicco, “Cine-rock : Times Square” (article), AAT ID: 300048715)
SONIDO la revista musical, No. 56, June 1981, pp. 38-39 (magazine (periodical), AAT ID: 300215389)
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SONIDO la revista musical ©1981 Corporación Editorial, S.A.

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

UK Promo Photos 4, 13, and 21, 1980-81

Posted on 25th May 2018 in "Times Square"
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Typically, shortly before my last post was published (but weeks after I’d initially written it), five more stills from the UK series turned up. Two were duplicates of numbers 20 and 29, but the others were new to me. They follow the series’ general conventions of being black and white 8×10″s with no border, a handwritten number on a tiny square inset along the bottom edge, and a paper strip taped to the back with a typed caption.

This first one I’d been passing up for maybe nearly a year, since Robin isn’t in it and it’s essentially a duplicate of TS-117-13/15, although less cropped, but I picked it up along with these others when I realized it was might be part of this series.

 One of a series of black and white 8x10" photos distributed in the UK in 1981 to promote TIMES SQUARE (1980).  The caption taped to the back is likely the caption from a different photo in the series:  Robin Johnson is a runaway teenage product of the streets who dreams of becoming a rock music star and lets nothing get in her way to make it to the top in"TIMES SQUARE".  "TIMES SQUARE" a contemporary drama with music starring Tim Curry, Robin Johnson and Trini Alverado, is a Robert Stigwood Presentation, produced by Stigwood and Jacob Brackman and directed by Alan Moyle from Brackman's screenplay, based on the story by Moyle and Leanne Unger, with Kevin McCormick and John Nicollela the executive producers and Bill Oakes the associate producer. "TIMES SQUARE" is distributed by Columbia-EMI-Warner.

I have some doubts over whether it truly belongs in this series, though, first because the caption sheet taped to the back seems to belong to a different photo, and doesn’t have the photo number on it:

Robin Johnson is a runaway teenage product of the streets who dreams of becoming a rock music star and lets nothing get in her way to make it to the top in “TIMES SQUARE”.
“TIMES SQUARE” a contemporary drama with music starring Tim Curry, Robin Johnson and Trini Alverado, is a Robert Stigwood Presentation, produced by Stigwood and Jacob Brackman and directed by Alan Moyle from Brackman’s screenplay, based on the story by Moyle and Leanne Unger, with Kevin McCormick and John Nicollela the executive producers and Bill Oakes the associate producer. “TIMES SQUARE” is distributed by Columbia-EMI-Warner.

Robin’s not in the photo, Trini’s name is spelled wrong, and the film distributors’ names are separated by dashes instead of slashes. In fact, the caption is identical to the one on the caption sheet attached to this photo of Robin from the US Press Material folder, except for the typos and the addition of the UK film distributors. The strangest thing is, though, I already have a photo #4 from this series, and it’s of Tim Curry. Both these photos are unmistakably labeled “4”. I’m keeping them both until I find out if one or the other doesn’t belong. I suspect this is the one that should be categorized somewhere else.

The other two are definitely part of this series:

#13 appeared in Photoplay Vol 32 No 1, January 1981, and in the Japanese souvenir program book. A copy of this photo is probably the source of those images.

#29 looks to have been taken within seconds of a shot that appeared cropped in the center of Japanese program book and on a lobby card I don’t have (but Karen Dean [DefeatedandGifted] does), and this color shot. Like that last one, this photo as far as I know was never published and may be making its first public appearance here. It’s probably safe to say that any shot of the performance of “Damn Dog” in the Cleo Club, like the 35mm slide, was taken at the same run-through as this one. None of these shots are of the performance given for the take in the film, even allowing for a different placement of the still and movie cameras.

I promised in the last post, which went up twelve days before this one but was written two months before, that I’d post a collection of all the photos I have from this series once I had fifteen of them, and I now have sixteen, counting both number 4s. So, that will be the next post.

Previous posts referenced above:

Times Square Press Material folder (post 3 of 5)
Times Square Press Material folder (post 4 of 5)
Times Square UK Press Kit (post 2 of 4)
Photoplay Vol 32 No 1, January 1981
Times Square Program Book, Japan, June 1981 (post 1 of 5)
Times Square Program Book, Japan, June 1981, pages 12-13 (post 5 of 5)
“Damn Dog”
Aggie Doon

 

 

Times Square publicity still 4 [2nd version]
black-and-white photograph, AAT ID: 300128347
UK ; 20.3 x 25.4 cm. (work)
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864 px (H) x 1080 px (W), 96 dpi, 368 kb (image)

Times Square publicity still 13
black-and-white photograph, AAT ID: 300128347
UK ; 20.3 x 25.4 cm. (work)
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864 px (H) x 1080 px (W), 96 dpi, 423 kb (image)

Times Square publicity still 21
black-and-white photograph, AAT ID: 300128347
UK ; 20.3 x 25.4 cm. (work)
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866 px (H) x 1080 px (W), 96 dpi, 432 kb (image)

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

UK Promo Photos 20 and 26, 1980-81

Posted on 13th May 2018 in "Times Square"
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Times Square 8 x 10″ publicity stills from this series continue to turn up. The first ones I found, I didn’t realize where they had come from, but the UK Press Kit’s caption sheet that matched up with some of the numbers on the photos solved the mystery. Their distinguishing characteristic is a small handwritten identification number in a tiny inset square along the bottom edge. Some have “TIMES SQUARE” stamped on the back. These have captions typed on a strip of paper pasted to their backs.

Photo 20 is the most-used publicity still from the movie, with the exceptions of the headshots of Trini and Robin that were used for the North American movie poster and the soundtrack album cover. I listed its various appearances when it showed up in Film Review Vol. 31 No. 1. Not in that list is photoplay Vol. 32 No. 4, where it also appeared, three months later. This specific version, numbered 20, was used as half of one of the two-photos-on-one-print 8×10’s that had Robert Stigwood’s name misspelled. It would make sense if the other three of those images were part of this series, especially since the caption for this one is identical on both versions, but I can’t see any numbers on the others.

Photo 26 is making its first and only (as far as I know at the moment) appearance here. It was part of the UK series of stills, but not used in any other country, and never published in any magazine or newspaper. (That I’ve yet found, at least.) It was evidently taken at the same time as the shot of Johnny and Pammy used on the Italian lobby poster, which will also later be a German lobby card.

The captions pasted to the photo backs both include the text “A scene from “TIMES SQUARE” distributed by COLUMBIA/EMI/WARNER Film Distributors”, Columbia/EMI/Warner being the film’s distributor in the UK.

The highest number photo in this series I’ve yet found is 36. I have thirteen of them. If I get an even 15 I’ll put up a gallery of just them. Till then, you can see them in these posts:

Times Square UK Press Kit (post 2 of 4)
Times Square UK Press Kit (post 3 of 4)
“6”
the page you’re reading right now
UK Promo Photo #29
“34”
Nicky Marotta, 1980

 

[In the two months that elapsed between my writing this page and my writing this note, shortly before this post is scheduled to be published, I did indeed acquire two more pictures from this series, plus one more that looks like it belongs but has the same number as another photo… so they will go up as soon as I can get them ready, followed by a post showing them all at once.]

 

 

Times Square publicity still 20
black-and-white photograph, AAT ID: 300128347
UK ; 20.3 x 25.4 cm. (work)
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866 px (H) x 1080 px (W), 96 dpi, 397 kb (image)
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858 px (H) x 1080 px (W), 96 dpi, 92.7 kb (image)

 
Times Square publicity still 26
black-and-white photograph, AAT ID: 300128347
UK ; 20.3 x 25.4 cm. (work)
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865 px (H) x 1080 px (W), 96 dpi, 332 kb (image)
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855 px (H) x 1080 px (W), 96 dpi, 108 kb (image)

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

Times Square Program Book, Japan, June 1981, pages 12-13 (post 5 of 5)

Posted on 7th April 2018 in "Times Square"
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1981 Japanese program book for TIMES SQUARE (1980), center spread (pp. 12-13)

The center two pages of the Japanese souvenir book feature, alongside a somewhat out of place Yankees logo, three beautifully reproduced photos.

The first, of Pammy and Nicky atop the Times Square Theater marquee, isn’t a frame from the film, and I haven’t yet found it as a publicity still, so it would seem to be making its first and possibly only appearance here.

The inset of Nicky singing in the Cleo Club looks like it was taken just before or after this publicity still (discussed here). This will turn up again later on the Mexican movie poster.

And the last shot: in the film we don’t see see Nicky’s face and the knife on her wrist in the same shot. This photo would seem to have been taken between AFD publicity still TS-109-16/12, which appeared in the US Press Material pack in 1980, and TS-81/34 from 1981, which I don’t have, but Karen Dean (DefeatedandGifted) does, along with several other Items I haven’t got. (Actually I’m fairly certain I do have a version of TS-81/34, but not as an AFD print, but consarn it I can’t seem to find it.)

This last shot would also seem to be making its first and only appearance, and isn’t it beautiful? I don’t know if it comes across in my digitization, but something about the lighting and quality of the printing make it look almost like a painting.

Incidentally, I just noticed that TS-C-34/29 in Karen’s collection is the same photo as the one that accompanied the film review in Playboy Vol. 28 No. 1 from January 1981, which until this moment I thought had only ever appeared there. Now I suspect that the “C” that appears in some of the AFD press photo code numbers means that there’s also a color version somewhere.

I also came across a photo I’d gotten several years ago and totally overlooked while preparing items for this blog. I think it’s a rejected publicity photo, the only one of three shots taken within seconds of each other not to see the light of day… until next time.

 

Times Square program book, pp. 12-13
Japan : souvenir program : AAT ID: 300253341 : 29.4 x 20.5 cm. : 1981 (work);

Press Book Japan 1981_12-13_1080px.jpg
1080 x 1486 px, 96 dpi, 762 kb (image)

©1980 Butterfly Valley N. V.
 
Times Square©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

Times Square Program Book, Japan, June 1981, pages 20-24 (post 4 of 5)

Posted on 26th March 2018 in "Times Square"
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“Let’s get together at … Hippy Power” (?)

1981 Japanese program book for TIMES SQUARE (1980), p. 21

 

 

 

Here at the end of the Japanese program book, we get the movie’s credits, an ad for the soundtrack album, and… the Times Square Top Ten? I can only imagine what’s being said, in relation to the film, about Make-Up, Music, Fashion, Life Style, Play, Foods, Dream, Sports, Sex, and Friendship. Okay, Music and Friendship I get, but Sports?

 

Page 21, bearing a “Hippy Power” button and the unfinished caption, “Let’s get together at,” features two shots that are neither frames from the film, nor are publicity stills I’ve yet come across. The shot atop the marquee bears a strong resemblance to this color still, and is probably another still shot at that same time, and the shot of the girls entering the abandoned pier is from an entirely different angle than the scene in the film. Also, neither Nicky nor especially Pammy smiles during that sequence in the film. The point being, this is the only place these pictures appear, as far I know.

 

 

I don’t know if the street photo that is the background of page 20 has anything to do the film, other than being New York City. The inset photo of Nicky is from the shot used on one of the Italian lobby posters. Accompanying the credits on page 22, the shot of Pammy and Nicky erupting onto the street after the chase through the Adonis Theater is I believe making its first appearance here; it will later be a press photo distributed in Germany. The other two photos are frames from the film but with more image visible at the tops and bottoms, which as I mentioned last time lead me to believe that these were taken from a full-frame exposure that was matted for release, and may still exist as a TV print.

Page 23 features the soundtrack album cover, the Japanese “Same Old Scene” single picture sleeve, and, clockwise from top right: a shot of Robin and Trini between takes that had previously appeared in Movie 81 No. 2; the image from the cover of the “Same Old Scene” single, which had also appeared in the soundtrack gatefold, the songbook, and the aforementioned Movie 81 No. 2; a shot of Johnny that had been a UK lobby card and an illustration in Movie 81 No.2; and guess where the shot of Robin had appeared previously? Of course! It was in Film Review Vol. 31 No. 1.

And that perfect image on the back cover is a detail from another publicity still that will appear later as a German lobby card.

 

 

Times Square program book, pp. 20-24
Japan : souvenir program : AAT ID: 300253341 : 29.4 x 20.5 cm. : 1981 (work);

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Press Book Japan 1981_21_1080px.jpg
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Press Book Japan 1981_23_1080px.jpg
Press Book Japan 1981_24_1080px.jpg
96 dpi (images)

©1980 Butterfly Valley N. V.
 
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608 x 1080px, 96dpi (contrast-adjusted frame captures from Times Square (1980))
Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

Another Italian Times Square Lobby Poster

Posted on 10th November 2017 in "Times Square"
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Two images from the film TIMES SQUARE (1980); ((1) Robin Johnson (2) Tim Curry and Trini Alvarado) with accompanying text:  TIMES SQUARE ROBERT STIGWOOD presenta "TIMES SQUARE"con TIM CURRY • TRINI ALVARADO  e per la prima volta sullo schermo ROBIN JOHNSON con PETER COFFIELD • HERBERT BERGHOF • DAVID MARGULIES  ANNA MARIA HORSFORD  produttori esecutivi KEVIN McCORMICK e JOHN NICOLELLA  diretto da ALAN MOYLE  prodotto da ROBERT STIGWOOD e JACOB BRACKMAN  sceneggiatura di JACOB BRACKMAN  soggetto di ALAN MOYLE e LEANNE UNGER EMI  produttore associato BILL OAKES  una produzione EMI-ITC  Technicolor • STEREOFUTURSOUND  IDIF

This is exactly what the post title says: a second lobby poster from Italy. There may be more, but so far I’ve only come across two.

The text is exactly the same as the other one and the Italian movie poster. Robin as Nicky is on the left, in a photo taken during the shooting of the final sequence, which is I believe making its first published appearance on this poster. We’ll be seeing it a few more times; it’s possible those future items actually came out before this, but they’re all from the spring or summer of 1981.

And on the right, we see an adult man giving vodka to a thirteen-year-old-girl, but it’s okay: he’s not interested in her, he wants to know about her sixteen-year-old roommate. Um… yeah. Sure, there’s really both more and less going on in that scene than that implies, but, I think you’d have a pretty hard time getting that from script to screen nowadays.

 

 

Times Square lobby poster (1)
poster, AAT ID: 300027221
Italy ; 46.9 x 64.5 cm. (work)
Times Square 1981 Italy Lobby Poster 1_1080px.jpg
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Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

U.K. Lobby Cards (post 2 of 3)

Posted on 17th November 2016 in "Times Square"
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Color 8"x10" lobby card, 1981  Text:  TIMES SQUARE AA Released by COLUMBIA - EMI - WARNER Distributors Limited. EMI A Member of the THORN EMI Group An EMI-ITC Production This copyright advertising material is licensed and not sold and is the property of National Screen Service Ltd. and upon completion of the exhibition for which it has been licensed it should be returned to National Screen Service Ltd. Printed in Great Britain.

 

This shot of Nicky joining in as Pammy dances at the Cleo Club appears to me to have been taken within seconds of TS-104-17A/7 from the US Press Materials folder, and this color 8×10, the purpose of which I still don’t know. (Its post is here.) Although the presence of Miguel Pinero and the various extras would seem to indicate all three were taken on the actual day of the shoot, they were shot either during a run-through or an unused take (or an unused portion of a used shot), as none of them match up to the action as shown in the film, even allowing for the different vantage points of the still and movie cameras.

 

Color 8"x10" lobby card, 1981 Text: TIMES SQUARE AA Released by COLUMBIA - EMI - WARNER Distributors Limited. EMI A Member of the THORN EMI Group An EMI-ITC Production This copyright advertising material is licensed and not sold and is the property of National Screen Service Ltd. and upon completion of the exhibition for which it has been licensed it should be returned to National Screen Service Ltd. Printed in Great Britain.

 

Another shot of Pammy and Nicky performing, or having just finished performing, “Your Daughter Is One” in the WJAD studio. It’s a shot we haven’t seen so far. The word “Rickenbacker” is clearly visible on the guitar’s headstock, so this photo belongs to the series of photographs from before it was removed (as it appears in the film) (yes, that’s from a different scene, but it’s the same guitar).

Color 8"x10" lobby card, 1981: Pammy and Nicky drop a television off the roof of a New York City building. Text: TIMES SQUARE AA Released by COLUMBIA - EMI - WARNER Distributors Limited. EMI A Member of the THORN EMI Group An EMI-ITC Production This copyright advertising material is licensed and not sold and is the property of National Screen Service Ltd. and upon completion of the exhibition for which it has been licensed it should be returned to National Screen Service Ltd. Printed in Great Britain.

Here Pammy and Nicky push their first television off a rooftop. A shot of them throwing their last one appeared in the songbook and inside the soundtrack album. In the film, Pammy doesn’t hold the box flap back, and Nicky is barely visible behind the box until after the TV is gone. Pammy and Nicky dropping their first television [Image 3 from the "Times Square" 2-sided poster] However, another shot that was obviously taken a split second after this one appeared way back as a tiny part of the collage that made up the double-sided promo poster. In that shot, the television is obviously on its way out of the box and down. Of course they didn’t really let the TV’s plummet to the street if it wasn’t shown happening in that shot), but it never occurred to me before now that not only did they catch them, they had to catch them completely intact right after they left the shot so they could be thrown off again in retakes. Either that, or part of the budget went for multiple identical junk television sets.

Pammy and Nicky throw their first television; frame from "Times Square" (1980)

 

 

[Robin Johnson and Trini Alvarado as Nicky and Pammy in the Cleo Club]
[Robin Johnson and Trini Alvarado as Nicky and Pammy in the WJAD studio]
[Robin Johnson and Trini Alvarado as Nicky and Pammy drop a television]
Lobby cards (AAT ID: 300208593)
8 in (H) x 10 in. (W)
1981, Great Britain (works);

 

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[Robin Johnson and Trini Alvarado as Nicky and Pammy drop a television]
detail from [Double-sided promotional poster, outside] (image)
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frame capture from Times Square (1980)
captured 2016-07-23

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

 

Another 2-fer

Posted on 8th October 2016 in "Times Square"
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Two more UK black and white press photos on a single 8 x 10 print.

2 UK TIMES SQUARE B&W Press Photos on a single 8x10 print. The bottom photo is in the Press Kit, the top photo appears nowhere else as of this writing.  Captions:  A ROBERT STIGWARD PRESENTATION FOR EMI FILMS - TIMES SQUARE.  IN  A DISTRESSED CONDITION, NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) TRIES TO TELL HER STORY OVER THE AIR FROM THE RADIO STATION.  RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.  A ROBERT STIGWARD PRESENTATION FOR EMI FILMS - TIMES SQUARE.  NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) AND PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) SURVEY THE CROWDS BELOW THEM IN TIMES SQUARE.  RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

Like the previous one of these, we have here one familiar picture and one new one.

 

The top photo, which  appears nowhere else as of this writing, from 2 UK TIMES SQUARE B&W Press Photos on a single 8x10 print.  Caption:  A ROBERT STIGWARD PRESENTATION FOR EMI FILMS - TIMES SQUARE.  IN  A DISTRESSED CONDITION, NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) TRIES TO TELL HER STORY OVER THE AIR FROM THE RADIO STATION.  RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

A ROBERT STIGWARD PRESENTATION FOR EMI FILMS – TIMES SQUARE. IN A DISTRESSED CONDITION, NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) TRIES TO TELL HER STORY OVER THE AIR FROM THE RADIO STATION. RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

 

At least I’ve never seen the top photo before, of Nicky waiting for her cue from Johnny to start her performance. Or perhaps it’s Robin waiting for her cue from Allan Moyle.

 

 

Bottom photo from 2 UK TIMES SQUARE B&W Press Photos on a single 8x10 print. The bottom photo is in the Press Kit.  Caption:  A ROBERT STIGWARD PRESENTATION FOR EMI FILMS - TIMES SQUARE.  NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) AND PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) SURVEY THE CROWDS BELOW THEM IN TIMES SQUARE.  RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

A ROBERT STIGWARD PRESENTATION FOR EMI FILMS – TIMES SQUARE. NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) AND PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) SURVEY THE CROWDS BELOW THEM IN TIMES SQUARE. RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

 

The bottom photo of Pammy looking on as Nicky decides whether to perform or not is a cropped version of TS-22-32 from the UK Press Kit (whose US-style numbering has me doubtful if it was really part of the Press Kit). Unfortunately it doesn’t have a nifty little UK-style number added like its counterpart on the other 2-fer.

Both captions repeat the peculiar misspelling of Robert Stigwood’s name as “Stigward”.

 

 

[2 “Times Square” black and white press photos on 1 8×10″ print 1 of 2]
black-and-white photograph, AAT ID: 300128347, 7.75 in (W) x 10 in (H) (work);
1981 2-photo UK 8×10-1_1080px.jpg
1080 px (H) x 863 px (W), 96 dpi, 312 kb (image)

1980
[IN A DISTRESSED CONDITION, NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) TRIES TO TELL HER STORY OVER THE AIR FROM THE RADIO STATION.]
[detail of 2 “Times Square” black and white press photos on 1 8×10″ print 1 of 2]
1981 2-photo UK 8×10-1_top_1080px.jpg
inscription:
[on photo] 20
[on border]A ROBERT STIGWARD PRESENTATION FOR EMI FILMS – TIMES SQUARE. IN A DISTRESSED CONDITION, NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) TRIES TO TELL HER STORY OVER THE AIR FROM THE RADIO STATION. RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.
1080 px (W) x 950 px (H), 96 dpi, 404 kb (image)
[NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) AND PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) SURVEY THE CROWDS BELOW THEM IN TIMES SQUARE.]
[detail of 2 “Times Square” black and white press photos on 1 8×10″ print 1 of 2]
1981 2-photo UK 8×10-1_bottom_1080px.jpg
inscription:
[on border]
A ROBERT STIGWARD PRESENTATION FOR EMI FILMS – TIMES SQUARE. NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) AND PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) SURVEY THE CROWDS BELOW THEM IN TIMES SQUARE. RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.
1080 px (W) x 943 px (H), 96 dpi, 406 kb (image)

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+

“Nick & Slick”

Posted on 28th September 2016 in "Times Square"
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Two UK black and white press photos on a single 8 x 10 print.

2 UK TIMES SQUARE black and white press photos on a single 8x10 print.  The top photo is a version of TS-72-8A/14 from the US press kit, cropped to show less at the top and more at the left, right, and bottom.  It has a tiny number 20 at its lower right.  The bottom photo appears nowhere else as of this writing.  Text:  A ROBERT STIGWARD PRODUCTION FOR EMI FILMS - TIMES SQUARE.  PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) SING LIVE ON THE AIR.  RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.  A ROBERT STIGWARD PRODUCTION FOR EMI FILMS - TIMES SQUARE.  PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) DEFACE PAMELA'S 'LOSTGIRL' POSTER.  RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

Who exactly printed these, and why, are mysteries, as I haven’t yet come across any publication that used them, but their country of origin is made clear by the captions announcing Times Square’s release in the UK.

A bigger mystery is why the photo captions lead off by misspelling Robert Stigwood’s surname “Stigward”. There’s at least one more 2-on-1 8×10 like this one (see next post), and it maintains the “Stigward” spelling.

 

 

This top photo from a single 8x10 print (2) contaniing 2 UK TIMES SQUARE Press Photos, is a version of TS-72-8A/14 from the US press kit, cropped to show less at the top and more at the left, right, and bottom.  It has a tiny number 20 at its lower right, in the style of the photos from the UK Press Kit.  Text:  A ROBERT STIGWARD PRODUCTION FOR EMI FILMS - TIMES SQUARE.  PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) SING LIVE ON THE AIR.  RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

A ROBERT STIGWARD PRODUCTION FOR EMI FILMS – TIMES SQUARE. PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) SING LIVE ON THE AIR. RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

The top photo is a version of TS-72-8A/14 from the US press kit, cropped to show less at the top and more at the left, right, and bottom. The most interesting thing about it it the tiny number 20 at its lower right, in the style of the photos from the UK Press Kit.

This bottom photo appears nowhere else as of this writing.  Text:  A ROBERT STIGWARD PRODUCTION FOR EMI FILMS - TIMES SQUARE.  PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) DEFACE PAMELA'S 'LOSTGIRL' POSTER.  RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

A ROBERT STIGWARD PRODUCTION FOR EMI FILMS – TIMES SQUARE. PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) DEFACE PAMELA’S ‘LOSTGIRL’ POSTER. RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.

 

The bottom photo, as far as I know, has never appeared anywhere else. It comes from the end of the dancing-along-42nd-Street scene, when they find that someone has spray painted “No Sense Makes Sense – The Sleez Sisters” across a “Missing” poster of Pammy on the side of a city bus. Needless to say, the shot in the film is from a significantly different angle. Also, the scene cuts as Nicky is blacking out Pammy’s eyes, and here Pammy and Nicky admire her completed work, including Nicky’s addition of the legend “Nick & Slick”.

For what it’s worth, this moment is to me the biggest continuity error in the movie. In the film, only Pammy is around when Nicky utters the phrases “Sleez Sisters” and “No Sense Makes Sense”. In the script, there are indications that Johnny has had them in the WJAD studio several times broadcasting their philosophy to the tri-state area, but in the movie, local girls are apparently receiving psychic transmissions from Pier 56. It still works though, adding to the dream logic that underpins the entire movie. There’s no way this could have happened, but of course it did, because it has to. Yes, it makes no sense, but No Sense Makes Sense. It’s pointless to argue about logic flaws in Times Square, because logic isn’t the point, the point is raw emotion, as embodied in Nicky Marotta.

That the incoherent form of the film reflects the intent in this way is a complete accident; I’m certain Allan Moyle and Jacob Brackman weren’t trying to create a film that delivered its message through continuity problems. Moyle has said (in the Anchor Bay DVD commentary) that the script should have had another year’s development before filming, to iron out some of those problems; and if someone other than Robert Stigwood had produced it, the problems created after Moyle left the film wouldn’t have occurred. As I’ve said before, though, if this had happened, Times Square would have been a radically different movie, and wouldn’t have starred Robin Johnson, and I wouldn’t be here blathering on about it.

Now, “No Sense Makes Sense” having its origins as a Charles Manson quote, again betraying the late ’60s-early ’70s sensibilities of the film’s creators, and our heroines adopting it as a rallying cry, and myself using it to explain away the movie’s structural flaws… well, it makes me feel a little icky, but please somebody else discuss this in the comments. I’m really only here to show all the pictures I’ve collected, not to analyze the film. (Every once in a while I just can’t help myself though, as you can see.)

 

 

[2 “Times Square” black and white press photos on 1 8×10″ print 2 of 2]
black-and-white photograph, AAT ID: 300128347, 7.75 in (W) x 10 in (H) (work);
1981 UK 2-photo 8×10-3_1080px.jpg
1080 px (H) x 852 px (W), 96 dpi, 321 kb (image)

1980
[20 – PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) SING LIVE ON THE AIR.]
[detail of 2 “Times Square” black and white press photos on 1 8×10″ print 2 of 2]
1981 UK 2-photo 8×10-3_top_1080px.jpg
inscription:
[on photo] 20
[on border]A ROBERT STIGWARD PRODUCTION FOR EMI FILMS – TIMES SQUARE. PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) SING LIVE ON THE AIR. RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.
1080 px (W) x 911 px (H), 96 dpi, 358 kb (image)
[PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) DEFACE PAMELA’S ‘LOSTGIRL’ POSTER.]
[detail of 2 “Times Square” black and white press photos on 1 8×10″ print 2 of 2]
1981 UK 2-photo 8×10-3_bottom_1080px.jpg
inscription:
[on border]A ROBERT STIGWARD PRODUCTION FOR EMI FILMS – TIMES SQUARE. PAMELA (TRINI ALVARADO) AND NICKY (ROBIN JOHNSON) DEFACE PAMELA’S ‘LOSTGIRL’ POSTER. RELEASED IN THE UK BY COLUMBIA-EMI-WARNER.
1080 px (W) x 921 px (H), 96 dpi, 391 kb (image)

 

 

Times Square ©1980 StudioCanal/Canal+